Fiat dualogic gearbox problems forum. Jan 28, 2016 · As Metalguru3 says, the Dualogic is not an automatic gearbox. Fiat USA uses a full automatic 6 speed transmission here. Hi. Hi, I have a Grande Punto from 2008 with dualogic gearshift and about 64. Jul 2, 2004 · Having problems with gears crunching and stalling when selecting gears. May 5, 2014 · Dec 5, 2022. 000 km) and a selectronic gearbox (very similar to dualogic or selespeed) Can I ask you for your advise: The system is running fine but I have had a small leak somewhere from the selectonic unit for about 2 years. The last four months I face this peculiar situation: Occasionally and very rarely while I use the automatic gear box and I am driving, when I use the brakes to stop from 10-20 klm/h to 0 klm/h, the gear changes from 1st to Neutral automatically and I do not do a thing. OP. Went to it the other day & it refused to engage either 1st or reverse. Devon. The noise first off, is not apparent when the ignition is switched to the first position, it is only when the initiation of the dualogic gearbox is made (i. Mar 9, 2017 · Constant purging and topping up is a sign of problems, usually leaks, NOT normal operation. One of the queries is; Can it be left in gear, for example, when I park on my drive and it Oct 9, 2011 · Points. He suggested a change of fluid, this was done but the fault Nov 6, 2008 · Dazzed & Confused ! Ive got problems with my mother in laws Panda 1. If fuse has gone, you may need a new motor, or possibly a new accumulator (or maybe both) as the pump gets over-worked with a duff accumulator. Until today the auto would change up gear at around 3,000 rpm depending on whether or not the economy "E" mode was selected then it would change up gear at about 2,500 rpm. Apr 27, 2013. Howver after about 40mins of driving the dualogic gear box seems to just change to neutral. Hi everyone. Keeps coming back though. After "Changed Clutch " prossedure with MultiEcuScan but now my car does not pass the gear sometimes. " or "Gear unavailable" but the only errors the examiner has read are "Gear change control" once and "Fuel level signal" once. 6 Multijet 120 (fiat engine) (200. 3 times now after driving a distance when trying to start again it will not select any gears. I checked it about 1700 miles ago and it was on max. Many other cars have gearboxes and components that last for many hundred thousand KM's. 65l of 75W-80 as specified in my handbook in the transmission. Paolo500 said: I've just ordered a Fiat 500 with a Dualogic gearbox and wondered what peoples opinions about this gearbox are? I have a Citroen C2 which has a similar gearbox and I like it but I've heard mixed reports about the Dualogic. #7. I live in New Zealand and have a 2005 1. #26. Recently, it keeps jumping into Neutral, and wont shift back into gear without turning it off and on again. Its had the fault sometime, only done 25,000 miles. A modern variant of the Alfa Romeo Selespeed. He channel is very popular (search Motortech dualogic) and has even had clients transport their cars from Sao Paulo all the way to his garage (over 1500km). 2 dynamic dualogic gearbox 2007. I think it will get the high torque, high economy Multijet2 1. My 500L is stuck in neutral. What year 500L do you own? Jun 9, 2014 · Think of it as a manual car, not an auto, and you'll be fine. #1. 3 Multijet Mylife a couple of weeks ago from a garage and on a long journey within three days of receiving the car had to be towed home. 4 8v 5 speed dualogic. Melbourne. This post is a Basic It is the 1. Manual says take to dealer. 2 petrol dualogic. The gearbox consists of a conventional Aug 15, 2007 · The only permanent fix is a new dualogic unit (gear box) which is £2k for the part alone. Dec 29, 2021 · This thread is for the general discussion of the Guide Dualogic troubleshooting Guide. But coming down the motorway at 70mph yesterday it randomly started beeping. The garage to sort the leak have had gearbox out replaced dual mass flywheel, clutch release bearing, slave cylinder A resonanable expectation would be that the pump, actuator etc should last more than 80,000Km. 2) Drive for for a week (if possible), 3) Change the fluid again. reverse looks fine. ) The Dualogic is more of a manual gearbox with an optional 'auto' mode, and I think you will get better results if you drive it as a manual, telling it when to change May 7, 2015 · Thought I would give a little update on the dualogic/selespeed thread, I’ve now bought a Grande Punto dualogic with gearbox issues, I’m going to run the car for 6 months or so and work out exactly what causes all of the different problems they suffer with. I've experienced similar problems with my dualogic as few other owners of this car. May 23, 2016 · May 23, 2016. It is known to experience gear slipping, transmission problems, difficulties and occasionally, complete inability in changing gears, among other issues. After having total nightmare with gearbox after battery went low, its all come down to replacement of dualogic selespeed pump, kept blowing fuses, after getting it electrical tested it was finally dead. 2 Panda with about 90,000 miles (151,000km) on it and the Dualogic clutch action is very jerky especially in slow stop/start driving. However, the design of the hydraulic circuit would displace any small amount of trapped air. Re: Fiat 500c 1. tonico77 submitted a new guide: Dualogic troubleshooting Guide I decided to write this guide to help with Dualogic gearbox problems after seeing a Brazilian mechanic Near the M4. and Brake lights ( the same Brakelight sensors work as the gearbox controls) 2. Electrical fault, curcuit voltage out of range. 14. Nov 11, 2022 · Hello. It was offered to me here on the forums: 1) Change the Dualogic gearbox fluid. Various factors, including low fluid levels, worn gear synchronizers, damaged linkage, and computer malfunctions, can cause these issues. I'm having an intermittent problem with getting a gear on cold mornings from start-up. It bolts directly to the top of the gearbox, underneath the battery area. I am changed new clutch set. Dualogic gearbox stuck in Neutral won't get gears. May 7, 2015 · The Dualogic control unit is a hydraulic computer controlled unit that operates the clutch and gear change. Whats happening is, when driving her car everything is fine. New car to me but it was my mothers. 2 Dynamic Dualogic? I've heard the filler plug is quite inaccessible because of the hydraulic actuator reservoir and components, and without removing certain bits. My problem is, that sometimes, hydrulic pump won't start when I open drivers door. That’s the issue smart cars Jun 5, 2016 · I decided to write this guide to help with Dualogic gearbox problems after seeing a Brazilian mechanic that has a youtube channel and deals with Dualogic gearbox repairs. Nov 30, 2016. Hi all, Apologies in advance for the lengthy ramble! Looking for advice/experience with the following associated with the Duologic gearbox: I purchased a 2013 Fiat Qubo 1. Sometimes 1th then 2th or 2th then 1th. Mechanical failures, actuator stuck open. Jun 17, 2020 · Hi, this is my first post My girlfriend has an Automatic 2011 Fiat 500 0. May 6, 2008 · 4. My 500L dualogic has started getting stuck in 3rd gear. Jan 11, 2024 · It is a Manual Gearbox with a hydraulic system to operate the clutch and gear shifts it has its own special Fluid NOT to be confused with the Gearbox Oil. Thinking of swapping my 2015 Pop (manual) to a new Lounge (dualogic); however I'm worried about the stories regarding transmission failure! Absolutely love my car but want to change due to back pain worsened by manual driving. If you press the pedal down further the gear change happens at a higher revs. And yes, FIAT know about this problem, there are many many threads on different forums about this very problem. We have a 500L (2014 - Just out of Manufacturer Warranty) and wondered if there are any known issues with the Dualogic Gearboxes. tonico77 submitted a new guide: Dualogic troubleshooting Guide I decided to write this guide to help with Dualogic gearbox problems after seeing a Brazilian mechanic May 7, 2015 · The Dualogic AMT problems appear to be the electric Denso Fluid pump that can be repaired or renewed with new brushes or a new pump found on Ebay. He says that many Jun 18, 2021 · 15014 posts · Joined 2011. I noticed the unit was leaking and very low on oil. 9. The only way is to accelerate very hard before 2000 rpm, then it changes to 4th and stays there, not changing to 5th. Aug 13, 2018 · 2015 Fiat 500 Auto Transmission Problems. the North American, 500L were only equipped with a dual clutch transmission, a 6 speed manual, later models a traditional automatic transmission. The red transmission warning light comes on. Just like how there's no creep forward when you're in D and lift off the brake, it won't creep backwards when you're in R and lift off the brake either. 4L Petrol 2009) with Dualogic (semi-auto) transmission. I am changed gear selection sensor magneti marelli PF2C sensor. 000 km i change the clutch and bearing also, everything is ok but Forums New posts Featured threads Search forums Members list Members Map Jan 15, 2024 · Not had a fiat since the late 80’s with my 127sport I bought a cheap 2009 qubo 1. Hi, I have my 2010 Fiat punto Dualogic in the fiat garage and after going through the diagnostics I am told that because the gearbox is not finding a gear it is most likely the gear box actuator or the gearbox has seized. To offer a bit of perspective on this - from what I have read elsewhere and have heard from a specialist in NZ, it sounds like the problems begin with a fluid leak, from the gearchange position sensors. Apr 15, 2017. Warning lights and beeps come on, and the dash sometimes says "Gearbox Fail. I have been quoted for £1700 for the actuator to be repaired does anyone know how much I Dualogic is automatic not a assisted manual gearbox. No automatic is as reliable as a manual car unfortunately and around the 5-7 year mark the Dualogic unit seems to need servicing. Assisted manual means you have to change/select ratio's yourself, i. Reading the codes and finding none is good news but not enough. #8. After about 30 seconds i hear the pump once again (i think it's the pump) and the message disappears. Here are some basic tips : 1. The Fiat 500 is known to experience gearbox problems such as difficulty shifting gears, grinding noises when shifting, slipping out of gear, and warning lights appearing on the dashboard. I took it for a drive, drove gently and very hard, it was fine. Make sure you can access & loosen the 12mm hex fill plug BEFORE removing the 8mm hex drain plug! I put 1. Push the gear lever A-fig. 4 Punto Grande Active with 5-speed Dualogic semi-auto box. I've posted before on issue as thought it was sorted with fuse, but it kept blowing fuses, I've put a 100amp in place of the 40amp but nothing now, the gearbox worked fine before it sat for a month and battery was very low, car is 2008 and only 22000 miles. A mechanic connected to a computer but all tests passed with no errors. I put the key inside and get this message:"CHECK TRANSMISSION SEE HANDBOOK" i can't put the car into gear. Just had a call from my elderly inlaws 260 miles away. The gearbox is a robotized manual transmission where both the gear selection and clutch are managed by an electronic control unit and actuated using hydraulic fluid, so there is no clutch pedal for the driver Mar 26, 2023 · Hello I have a Fiat Punto evo 1. Aug 6, 2023 · Transmission Fault. - The second engages the desired gear, you again moving the level forward or backward. Oct 18, 2016 · New member. It makes no difference if I use manual. 9 TwinAir. It was basically well fitted, but there are a couple of reset/adjust routines that have to be run after it's re-assembled. Hi there, you may think as the dualogic being a robot clutching and shifting gears for you, not so complicated: - One actuator select which group -which fork- to select from (1-2, 3-4, 5-R), that's you going left or right with the lever. My faith in the car has been destroyed and I am returning it to motability despite only owning it since March!!! Points. 3 multijet with dualogic that needed a clutch Dropped the gearbox and Forums New posts Featured threads Search forums Members list Members Map May 8, 2013 · 28. 2. I can be in any gear from May 7, 2015 · Papamoa Beach. Hello everyone, for about two months I am proud owner of Fiat Bravo 2009, 1. e. 3 95 before the end of the year. To accesses the electro valves or change the pressure sensor the ecu must be pulled out, using a pluller. My Fiat 500C is in the garage having a new clutch and flywheel fitted with only 2700 miles on the clock. There have been a number of little issues with the car but the main problem at the moment is that the gearbox is stuck in manual and I can't get it into Automatic. or message. This hydraulic system operates at high pressure 40 bar + and requires its own maintenance ( often neglected ) this is where most problems develope with the system. I would greatly appreciate any advice or suggestions. Nov 13, 2023 · Common Problems. Dec 8, 2012 · 2. Apr 26, 2017 · Hi all, I have a 2006 Fiat Grande Punto 1. The difference between these 2 is that the M20 has the gearbox Ecu bolted onto the Solenoid Valve Unit. This is clearly a manufacturer fault with the gear box and is highly dangerous. 4 with the daulogic transmisson which has came up with the famous 'Gear Unavailable'. In a nutshell the Dualogic is an automatic gearbox with sequential manual transmission (or you can think of it as been a manual gearbox with auto transmission but I think the former is a more accurate description). Sometimes it's a month, other times 2 days. Problems only one on the first car I had the "gearbox fail" message come up wich sure got my attention as I was doing a good speed at the time. Sometimes it blows the fuse, sometimes it cooks the relay, sometimes it kills the motor. I have read many near death experiences due to this fault on this forum and others. This has solved a lot of my issues. Would you please give me some advice on what the problem could be. 6 jtdm 88kw with dualogic gearbox. Oct 19, 2018 · 1. I've been under and removed some of the nuts but to stage I don't know what I'm doing, anyone got details/drawings Feb 1, 2017 · Hi, I really appreciate you helping me out here. Jun 18, 2021. May 13, 2015. Our car was in for un related issues and it was found to have a leak from the gear linkage seal. When the level gets too low, the system will select neutral and no gears. Parked up, turned off. i recently having problem when is take ages to change gears or i have to change them manually otherwise is just revs. Exeter. now its has 140k on the clock and getting some issues on the gearbox/dualogic unit. I noticed today the car just stays in one gear and refuses to change up automatically even when reved hard . They also found that the oil was extremely low, as in off the dip stick low. 2 Lounge, owned from new with under 11K miles with a Dualogic gearbox and the "Transmission warning" light has kicked in again and locked out 4th and 5th gears - is this a common problem ? Took it to a local specialist who recommended swapping the brake light switch (which has already been done) and said Mar 7, 2017 · Points. If you only press the pedal a small amount the gear changes happen at lower revs. A few weeks ago, my 2007 Panda dualogic (<45k miles) went into the garage and what with it being Christmas, not much has happened. At first the car was running great (apart from issues with starting due to old battery; now replaced along with new starter) but a short time later it started leaking gearbox oil. This usually works for a few thousand miles, then the problem recurs, because the fundamental cause of the fault hasn't been properly dealt with. Feb 29, 2016 · Mar 29, 2016. I rang a local dealer and they said there are no known issues or no software upgrades available but am not so sure!! When driving sometimes it comes up with a red warning light Aug 26, 2022 · 25. 3 mjt 95ps with dualogic (selespeed) gearbox, before 50. Points. Hi! I have a 2008 500 with dualogic transmission, which has sadly failed. About 6 months ago I bought a second hand Grande Punto from our local Fiat Dealer. Jun 22, 2013. The reservoir is on the front of the gearbox under a heat shield - this heat shield is difficult to remove from the 500 due to a lack of space. At present the Qubo is simply too expensive for what it offers. Aug 23, 2009 · The gearbox changes up fine but as soon as the light comes on, you cannot use 4th or 5th gear any more. It usually the clutch actuator, that’s the problem. Feb 18, 2013 · 35. when the key is turned to get the car going) then the static like sound occurs when idling, it goes away once you get up to speed, but briefly comes back when the use of paddleshifters or Feb 14, 2011 · Apr 21, 2011. 2 Fiat 500 dual logic has got an intermittent fault regarding its gearbox selector. (Dualogic electric pump was replaced 40k kms back) Apr 3, 2013 · Plz help n explain me if it happened with you guys Best regards Mar 9, 2017 · Hi All Just wondering how easy is it to change the gearbox oil on a 2004 Fiat Panda 1. The actuator can leak fluid dropping fluid pressure due to corrosion or delamination causing the fluid to leak hence dealerships replacing the total unit. We have a 59 plate 1. 4 16v Starjet on 31k. Apr 27, 2011 · This is a commonly found gearbox system in Small FIAT vehicles. 1 in A/M to engage the automatic mode or in R to engage reverse Release the brake pedal and press the accelerator pedal. Apr 5, 2018 · 1. Apr 5, 2018. hi i have fiat 500 dualogic 2009. Aug 16, 2020 · I have a Dualogic 2008 Panda. From what I have read on the forum this is probably due to clutch pressure plate finger wear and the solution is a new clutch. In auto mode, its just like an auto gearbox. Oct 13, 2021 · The Fiat Dualogic transmission is a 'clutchless' manual gearbox that can be used in either automatic or manual (or semi-automatic) mode. Having not used the car for 3 weeks, I drove it 100 yards then stopped to load up the kids and it would not go into 1st. Jan 2, 2009. AA could not budge it and so we will call dealers in Cornwall tomorrow. First the transmission fuse and relay burnt out, and the pump motor windings were damaged. Just a puddle, or a flooded pot hole that's given the steering a May 12, 2015 · 4. I sometimes have problem engaging the gear from neutra to first gear and would have to shift to reverse first. After having the cam belt and aux belt replaced we developed a problem with clutch overtemperature warning coming on after 5 miles or so of Jul 25, 2023 · Location. The Dualogic system is a manual gearbox that works with both automatic and manual driving. Jul 25, 2023. #38. The car has got 54000 milage. Oct 23, 2018. May 30, 2019 · Top up the selespeed fluid, reset the fault codes, maybe run the clutch calibration software and hope it makes it through whatever's left of the warranty period. 2 panda elgananza model with the automatic gear box. I left it running until the fan kicked in Aug 23, 2009 · Nov 30, 2013. The Dualogic box is essentially an automated manual box. Initially, the car had trouble engaging reverse. The car is an 09 plate 1. Hi there, I just recently took my 2015 Fiat 500 into the shop due to suspected auto transmission problems. I have found a short-term fix to Dualogic gearbox weirdness. okenkou said: Hi. I own a Fiat Panda Dualogic 1. Jan 7, 2014. I believe it's a problem with the Dualogic Gearbox Actuator. The gearbox is also VERY Jan 1, 2009 · Points. comes on. I have replaced the oil in the selespeed and the gearbox about 2 Sep 10, 2005 · Going round a corner in second, slowly (!), got beeping, "gearbox fail" and red gearbox icon on dash. "Gear unavailable Check Handbook", also gearbox warning light flashing. Take notice of WHEN the warning light. However- recently it started being a bit odd- running really rough on idle and not pulling away as crisply as usual, plus a little bit of creep forward Jul 17, 2014 · One thing that is worth mentioning is that the dualogic system in the 500 is far, far superior to the old selespeed that was in older FIATs/Alfas which you might have heard a few horror stories about. These problems were jumping out of gear and check transmission error messages. 1st topped up trans oil and seemed to do the trick. Under warranty they reprogrammed it and bled the clutch. This can be a magic fix and make the car sooo smooth which it will do if there are no Jun 7, 2021 · 3. These are the problems that can go wrong and how to check them. 6 Diesel as well as the revised 1. Sep 25, 2020 · Changing the gearbox oil is unlikely to improve this problem, unless the car has done serious mileage (200k+ miles) Same with changing the gearbox actuator hydraulic fluid (which is a particularly lame suggestion regularly used by not-very-good mechanics to fob people off) If under warranty, then tell them now, preferably with supporting Oct 4, 2023 · Hi, my daughters 2015 1. If I rev it up it goes into a gears with a jolt and stalls. D. Ex Volvo Victim said: I am not at all happy with Fiat Dualogic transmission. Seems like the I have 2006 Fiat Grande punto 1. The car slows to a halt and I cannot select any gear. #2. Jan 13, 2014. 4 Fire active dualogic (30k miles) and really have some trouble with the gearbox. In manual mode, you push the gearstick up to go up a gear, and down to go down a gear Jan 13, 2018 · Hello All, I have recently bought my first car (FIAT Grande Punto 1. The temperature was about 3 degrees C. I’ve had the car since 2016 and it has 4980 miles so I wanted to get it into shop ASAP before the warranty was out! Im STILL waiting to hear the verdict after 3 weeks being in the shop!! Oct 3, 2017 · Hi everyone! I was hoping I could get some advice. I own a 2008 dualogic grande punto. It moves very little, probably been standing for a month. The motor has been repaired, but the transmission fuse is still blowing and the transmission fluid is leaking. 4. Jan 5, 2009 · Just bought a brand new Fiat Doblo 1. Jul 19, 2023 · Hi All, I’m new here but seem to be having a slightly unique problem with my daughter’s 500c Dualogic. On each cold start (before work and after work). I like how car drives, and I got used to semi-auto gearbox. Jan 2, 2017 · Jan 2, 2017. But not any more. Oct 10, 2016. It normally Beeps when I don’t put my foot on the brake pedal to put it in to Drive/Reverse/Neutral etc, an it shows a warning/fault message on the dash aswell as a warning light I’m used to this now. You should get a person with the correct software, MES or Fiat, to do a re-learn of the clutch takeup. After 30 mins - 1 hr driving, at the first brake it shifts to N and it will start working again only if I stop the engine and let it to cool down for about 1 hr. On 4 separate occasions the cars has changed down to neutral whilst slowing down. Hello, I hope someone is able to help me. I started the car, same message after a few seconds (gearbox in auto 1st), buzzing noises under bonnet. 000 km. The system is quite simple in concept; a standard mechanical gearbox, an ordinary clutch, and then a self-contained, removable device that operates them (known as the actuator). Jun 9, 2016 · Search for M20 Dualogic gearbox and M40 Dualogic. Apr 17, 2016 · Apr 17, 2016. Sometimes transmission light comes on with the message " check the transmission see handbook" and then is changing gears perfectly. . Apr 13, 2017 · Apr 14, 2017. Feb 29, 2016 · Points. I've had code read Mar 6, 2013 · First of all plenty of apologies for my elemantary level English. Aug 28, 2022. 4 with dualogic gearbox and while driving, the car sometimes loses all power and the transmission lights comes on, few seconds later, power is restored and everything is normal. No warning lights or messages (I Dec 11, 2008 · After trying several garages and non of them having the foggiest idea, I booked it in to a proper Fiat garage. 4 petrol Duologic Transmission Failure - Australia. 2 diagnostic checks have not found the problem. I have a big problem. Reversing is not much different. Apr 25, 2011 · The problem may occur when the engine is cold or hot. If it is damp (see my dualogic threads for my suspected problems with damp) starting the engine and letting it warm-up may help dry things out. May 13, 2012 · Glad I did!! I'm driving a 1. In normal operation there is no need to purge air as it does not enter the system. DUALOGIC GEARBOX The car is equipped with an electronical-ly controlled manual gearbox known as “Dualogic” that has two operating modes: MANUAL and AUTO. tonico77 submitted a new guide: Dualogic troubleshooting Guide I decided to write this guide to help with Dualogic gearbox problems after seeing a Brazilian mechanic May 27, 2015 · Checking the Dualogic special hydraulic fluid (CS Speed/Selespeed fluid) level is not a regular service task - but it should be. Mostly (not all) the same parts replaced you list, old clutch disc turned out to be very worn. We purchased the car and all was fine, carried out full service, new brakes etc and all was good. Location. May 12, 2015. here a video that i recorded this morning. Can anyone tell me what I need to remove to May 10, 2011 · Hi Guys, I actually have a Fiat Idea but im presuming the Dualogic gear box is the same as the Punto's? Its a 54 plate and drives very smoothly gear changes are generally fine. Mr Qubo said: Eventually it got to be more regular so I took it to my local indie Fiat specialist who diagnosed a brake light switch problem which he adjusted and all was fine for a while then it started to play up culminating with a long journey where it performed faultlessly. Obviously like most auto's now the Dualogic has the option to select gears, but is not required. e sequential boxes in rally cars. Mar 18, 2005 · Also unlike a conventional automatic it isn't hell bent in changing into top at about 30 mph. Aug 2, 2015 · My car GrandePunto Dualogic 5 GEARs Selespeed CFC328. Hi, We have a 2015 Panda Twinair Dualogic which has done 30300 miles. 2 cc. I found that little "tap" on (i think that is electromotor of hydrulic pumo Jan 15, 2021 · The FIAT 500, which employed FIATs proprietary Dualogic transmission, has a number issues reported by users. Oct 9, 2011. There is also a big difference when using the economy mode. 3, and more space than the Qubo. They were never equipped with the Dualogic. They stuck it on their test unit and these were the results: P1744 - Hydraulic circuit pressure sensor. Oct 15, 2023 · Hey guys, I have a Fiat panda 1. However it continued to operate normally. #2 · Jun 18, 2021 (Edited) Welcome to the forum. Jun 25, 2022. Apr 24, 2023. I usually need to restart the car for couple times to make it. Mar 9, 2017 · Hi, I have a Lancia Delta with 1. When in fully auto mode the gear changes are affected by the position of the accelerator pedal. :eek: Fiat dealer(s) all implied finding the problem would be time consuming and involve dismantling the gearbox, and in consequence due to a busy schedule we had to drive Mar 26, 2017 · Recently been having troubles with the dualogic on my Grande Punt0 2007 1. Been in fiat specialist garage. In fairness to your Yaris, 11 years isn't bad going before problems start appearing. We get it reset almost monthly and the mechanic assisting us has even changed the body control module. recently the transmission warning light has come on. And there is also a new Doblo coming in September, with the 1. May 1, 2009 · Jun 21, 2009. While driving the gear seems to change from 1 to 2 as normal but won't go to the any upper gear. Apr 12, 2015 · This thread is for the general discussion of the Guide Dualogic troubleshooting Guide. 3. To be auomatic there has to be no user intervention to change gear, which the dual logic is. The purge procedure would just do it quicker. We didn’t receive the Dualogic transmission here in North America. The symptoms don't quite match those I've seen posted on older threads. I have a Fiat Panda Eleganza with semi auto gearbox. Have you replaced it. I own a 2009 GP 1. May 7, 2015 · I don't believe that Dualogic problems are very common, considering the large number of Pandas, Puntos, and 500s fitted with this system. P1818 - Gearbox control. Check all of the Rear lights. Please add to the discussion here. It doesn't engage reverse at first try when the weather (and the engine) is cold. The 500s made for the USA have an automatic gearbox which behaves in the usual automatic way (has Park, Drive, etc. We also recently had our clutch done, on our Abarth 500C with the robot box. Apr 24, 2022 · Welcome to the forum. Hi All, Following a recent visit to the garage to investigate a leak in clutch hydraulics I have come away almost a £1000 lighter, but now with a second gear that grinds, if at all it want to engage. 9 diesel, but twenty miles down the road, we discovered the reverse was unobtainable. Looks like the actuator itself is faulty, or the Mar 16, 2017 · Aye, there was a recent thread on the 500 section, owner reported they couldn't access the gearbox filler plug on the front of the transmission as the Dualogic robot is in the way. but then i stop on traffic lights and Feb 5, 2019 · If it doesn't work, check the fuse and the relay. May 6, 2008. They bought a brand new Panda Dynamic just a few weeks ago - done about 500 miles and gearbox has locked up. The driver simply controls the gears using May 7, 2015 · Hi nad87:) My suggestion would be this. The Dualogic gearbox is hydraulic and VERY RELIABLE when maintained. No amount of fixing or changing of components resolves the issue. Oct 1, 2016 · Points. 1. 58 plate 1. Jul 13, 2012 · Aug 9, 2015. Jan 7, 2016 · The car would normally still start even if the dualogic system is stuck in gear, just with the usual "not in neutral" warning bleeps. The Dualogic transmission in the 500, is similar to what is used in a 450/451 smart car. Just clunked, went bing bing & stayed in N. It has been serviced and looked after well and it has been a great little car with no problems. Since buying the fiat 500l 2014 almost 2 years ago, we've seen regular "Dualogic gearbox failure" errors which limits the gearbox to 1-3 gears and reverse. yh ri vo le jp jm es tx eq ka